Mark Rogers I've had some time to review the reviews of this miniseries. It would seem that the subset of posters that moan "why would anybody watch this depressing series and mean spirited" title character are predisposed to not like an excellent, and nuanced drama and see it instead as trauma. One poster went as far as to say why would they "hurt" themselves by watching this. It seems the point that this is a character study seldom found on TV was missed by those predisposed to miss it. A few other things missed. The show details a fascinating study of interpersonal attitudes. On a surface Olive is "mean spirited", but more objectively she is a conduit of truth going her entire life stating what is fairly accurate feedback. She is highly intelligent, analytical, (Math teacher) and see's through others shortcomings, challenges, and openly comments on them. For this, in an age of non stop reinforcement, coddling, unconditional regard, she is viewed as a "witch" evil, destructive, and generally the reason all is wrong with others. Ignoring entirely the shortcomings, or very similar nihilism exhibited by almost all the other characters. Starting with her son who this viewer also saw as "mean spirited" but without any regard, and less virtue. The son seems to evaluate every adult he comes into contact with dismissively, or with lack of regard. From the outset one see's this character as one who will go through the rest of their life in therapy, blame others for their being, and while being caustic in interactions and even with peers. Including the student who Olive defended. A student she defended from cruelty, and even from her own son. The son exists as a borderline sociopath throughout. Not connected with family enough to even spend time at the dinner table. Judging and smirking in nearly every scene. Seemingly oblivious to any of his own interactional characteristics. Later in life we see the son as somebody who is a punitive rather than permissive with children and who has oddly learned to be inflexible and impatient as a parent but who now rants about the influences of Olive while doing worse to the children he rears. Lost entirely is the son living a comparatively idyllic life on a beautiful property in Maine. A property with beach, walking paths, places for children to explore. What child wouldn't love that opportunity? Contrast this with the bombed out backyard in the neighborhood with dog feces sidewalks and urban decay that the younger couple has chosen as a place to raise children. Complete with a spouse who drinks during pregnancy because yeast is good or some such nonsense. In other words harming a child even before birth. But this same mother, despite her own obvious flaws (for instance not providing her progeny with stable fathers or stable upbringing) is flatly dismissive of Olive making her apologize to an acting out child, demeaning her, talking down to her, and figuratively with Olive put in the dingy basement room which is symbolic of imposed hierarchy. Contrast this with the beautiful property and house granted to Chris and his short lived wife. These are intentionally put in as contrasting comparisons of respective treatment. Reasonable commentary can occur that the truly " mean spirited" actions are taken up by some of the younger people featured in the series that are entirely dismissive, mocking, and mean at least in response to Olive. Because she doesn't match the unconditional regard prototype, and she is instead, honest. Watch the series a second time and witness how many times Olive is actually wrong in an assessment. She merely lacks the white lies inherent in contrived nicety. The kind of nicety that smiles at you with forced raised lips but that curses and demeans the mother of the son at her wedding when Olive is thought not to be in earshot. Another inter-generational prejudice is featured when the Fathers ex employee openly, and contemptuously questions the sale of the pharmacy and that they take advantage of "people like you". The disrespect was so blatant that the nice to a fault Henry was virtually forced to respond "its none of your business". The employee owes Henry his career, his opportunity, and even his wife (which Henry setup) but is openly disrespectful of him. An under riding theme throughout is a world turned upside down (or is it) of children in control, of parents getting down on their knees apologizing, and ignoring behavior at every turn. Interestingly the same Chris who viewed his parents relationship dismissively engages in a marriage that lasts a few months and in which he is sleeping in bed, while his wife curses looking for an earring on the wedding night. A couple who's relationship was over before it even started. Interestingly the few deepest characters in the movie, including the husband, and Bill Murray, as well as the depressed young man, and the waitress, they get Olive, they get what she see's. In the end Olive saved all of them and including herself. That's the last, and integral part missed, is that Olive isn't just mean, she's a seeing savior.

bttf-3 Why is the media so negative? In a typical day, I hear about death from car crashes, house fires, plane crashes, robberies, mine explosions, terrorist bombings, cancer, ALS, MS, CVAs, MIs, suicides, industrial accidents,, schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, drownings, lightning, drug overdose, alcoholism....you get the picture. Do I really need to spend 4 hours watching a mini-series about dusfunctional depressing people in some remote town with no socially redeeming value? This town is worse than Cabot Cove where there was a murder every week for its 12 year run; it's a miracle there was anyone left to die in that dreadful little village. With the media scouring the world to tell me repeatedly each day the worst, most depressing news they can find, do I really have any room left in my brain for a a story combining all the possible bad things that can happen to everyone in its cast? Warning!!!! If you have experienced any tragedy in your life, are on anti-depressants, or are concerned about the daily inhumanity of man to man coming to you on a multimedia barrage, DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE. Strongly suggest a Hallmark production set in a beautiful location where two good looking people fall in love and drive an expensive flashy car.

angelccampoamor That's what I asked my wife when I saw the last scene of this pseudo-Pulitzer.My conclusions? HBO must be a mafia. If not I don't understand it. I don't understand that they can award any kind of Emmy to this regular soap-opera. Only explanation: HBO took charge of the asylum.That would also explain the "best script" award to Game of Thrones, instead of "Mad Men".And, by the way, How dare they advertise Bill Murray as supporting actor? It's a plain hoax. He is only 10 minutes or less on screen through the whole show. And thank god for that, 'cause it wasn't a good part either. Just the same old Bill Murray grumpy old guy. But poor and lame.And thank god again, it was only 4 installments. I was bored already on the second.'Nuff said.

ekat-708-190051 I love Frances McDormand and Richard Jenkins since I saw them both in Burn after reading. That was when I started to collect (and see) all movies from the Coen brothers, including Fargo, where Frances McDormand was very good. And I always see every movie which has Richard Jenkins as well. But that here was when I realized how incredibly good actors they both are, it just was magic. Like I was spying on some family somehow, you never felt it was just acting. The story was sad, and sometimes embarrassing, but it had wonderful pictures and it was so.... human. I had to keep looking. And in the end there was hope as well. So maybe I should have given more than 8 points, for the acting was definitely 10/10.